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USARMY1946
#1 Posted : Saturday, March 6, 2004 2:27:18 AM
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On June 29 & 30, 2006 I will be attending the International Luge Federation Congress at the Intercontinental Resort in Berchtesgaden which is where the former General Walker Hotel Was located. I recall the grand opening of The Walker in 1954. I was stationed in Garmisch with the AFRC Post Engineers and we were responsible for the upkeep of all hotels located withing the AFRC. From 1952 until 1957 I was the Heavy Equipment Chief for the Engineers. From 1962 to 1965 I was on special assigment from Department of The Army to Garmisch where I formed and trained the first US Olympic Luge Team for the United States. We participated in the Winter Olympics in Innsbruck, Austria during the month of February 1964. I remained in Garmisch for another year with my family and then returned to the States. I try to go back to Garmisch each year and have lots of German friends in that area and Berchtesgaden. I am a lifetime Honorary Member of the International Luge Federation and our President is the City Manager in Berchtesgaden.


I found your websit while looking up the Garmischer Hof Hotel to look for a room. I will be in Garmisch on June 25 for three days then on to B-Garden, then back to Garmisch for a couple of days. I retired from the Army in 1974 as a Command Sergeant Major. My son Dereck was born in Munich on February 14, 1964. My family and I lived in the Britneau Housing community in Garmisch.  My former wife (now deceased) was an Ice Skater at the Casa in Garmisch for several years. Lots of memories there.


Would be glad to correspond with anyone that so desires.


 


Volley “Bob“ Cole


 


 

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Bob,


Was  wondering if  you   might  know of Jack Elder, (you  might  have  coached  him) who  did  the  Luge thing I believe  in  1967.  He  was  a  discharged military  guy,  stayed  in B'Gaden, afterwards, tended  bar at  the  EM club, and I   carried   his  Luge  from time to ch  after all these   yers.time,  when  he  practiced at  Konigesee.   Looking  for  an  update to  stay  in touch.  Laast  seen  May   1967.


 


Thanks


 


Dave

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Hi Bob,

I would be interested in knowing which hotes were part of AFRC back in the 1950's and of course I'm always interested in photos of buildings in the area as well the people. I doubt that I will be flying from Seattle to germany at the same time that you are but woukd like to know the history that you enjoyed and experienced.

Joe P.
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Welcome to the website.


 

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Yes, I know Jack very well. He lives in Oregon and we touch base from time to time by email. I recall Jack working as a bartender in B-Garden and training on th Luge Run at Konigssee. He later went to the Olympics. 1972 I was not a Coach that time around, but was an Offical at Sapporo. I think that's correct if my memory is serves me well. Jack's email address is: oregonjack@comcast.net. I'm sure he would like very much to hear from you. The mailing address that I have for Jack is: 600 SE Spokane Street, Portland, OR 97202. Tel: 503-794-1780 - Home. 503-227-7466- Ext 812 Office.


Good Luck and it was nice making contact with you.


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Bob Cole


 


 


 

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Hello Joe:


If my memory serves me well, we still had seventeen (17) hotels in Garmisch when I arrived in 1952 which included two of the mountain hotels. Will work up a list as soon as possible and pass it on to you. Not to sure about Berchtesgaden but will be able to get this information at our next FIL Congress in June from Joseph Fendt, President of the FIL and City Manager for Berchtesgaden. Will work up a bit of history from my point of view and pass it on as well.


Did any of you ever know Sergeant Major Jack Sealy who was in charge of the Ski Patrol in Garmisch during the early sixties. Jack was the G-1 Sergeant Major for US Army  Southern Area Command io Munich. I'm not sure if he had responsibility for Berchtesgaden as well.

JAMES CAREY
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DAVE:


In Disneyland they say, “IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTERALL”.   I found Jack's address.  As a matter of fact he wrote to me asking about BRA, GAP and Chiemsee.


 


Here is his letter:


 


Thanks for the quick response. I'll get to work on material for the timeline.


 


One question. When in BGaden bartending at the E Club, I organized/promoted a broomstick hockey game between the Ski Patrol and the perm party. Real brooms were used and the puck was a beer can well taped at the ends to insure that no flying beer can would cut a cheek or face...I think the year was winter of 69-70 around New Years? During that same time period the CO (Miller?) heard about our night rodel parties and supplied a bus to reduce the necessity of drinking and driving. We were amazed that he actually cared.


I remember the Columbia very well. Our inspections in Munich took us to every USAEUR (sp) installation in Munich, Lengreis, Bad Aibling, Bad Tolz and a few AF installations so isolated I couldn't tell you where they were.


Unfortunately, I was not into history while in Munich, only later when I arrived in BGDN because I was surrounded by it. We inspected the bar and restauarant at the Columbia but I remember little else except that one of the SSGT's with the Preventive Medicine section had a real gambling habit and that once away from the hospital we always stopped at the Columbia so that he could play the slots.


In refernce to the inspections in B'Garden two of us would drive down from Munich and stay at either the HOF or the Bellevue for a day or two and get all of the inspections done for the month. We were required to see each installation once per month throughout the southern Bavaria district. We were excluded from "real army installations like Infantry, Armored, Artillery except for the snack bars that were operated by the exchange system. Because we made the reservatons at the hotel we knew that everyone would be ready for us, but that didn't bother us in fact it helped as command would prep them and most of the needed repair, placement and cleaning was done before we had to bring up the subject.


I knew I was in a special place at the HOF when they brought out the ice bucket for the wine. It was a free standing bucket, table high, and on the side was the Nazi eagle and a hackenkruz, crooked cross, leftover from the war years. I always wanted to midnight requistion one of them...never did.


Last then I'll have to go. In the late summer of 66 several of the ex army then civilians started going into the bunkers through Bormans residence. We found the entry under his basement. A safe about 6 feet high by 30-4- inches wide and a foot or two deep was laying on it's face with an obvious explosive hole in the back. Very curious. Under the old SS Kaserne was a rifle/pistol range and under that were steps leading down but the lower area was flooded from undergrounds sources...was always curious of that area. In the range, at the end, were large piles of sand as backs to the tagets I assume. One weekend we dug about 200 expended rounds out of the sand and in a fit of enterprise, consdiering that we were broke, sold them for a buck or two each to friends and afrc vacationers.


Enough for now,


All the best


Jack


 


[mailto:oregonjack@comcast.net]


 


Jack is working on “goodies“ for the AFRC TIMELINE.


 


JIM


 


 

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