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#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2004 7:03:26 AM
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Is anyone still around who worked at the grill when it was the funkiest place in Garmisch? I worked there as chief glasswasher for 9 months, when Aussie Jeannie, & Michelle a little redhead were waitresses & Big Frank was the bartender along with two American guys. Sgt Turnell was in charge if you want to stretch that far because he was stone deaf. There were terrific bands from England, & a lot of fabulous nights afterwards at Johns Club where we danced till 3 am. That was the best of times,


Drew(Andy) Failes.

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 6, 2005 3:40:15 PM
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I worked at the club that was in the same building as the international bar and grill. Big John was the manager and also he had a son named John but i cant remember his girl friends name.I was there in the summer of 78 as an adventure training instructor and at night i worked the door to the club checking ID and signing people in. I remember if you were in the service or worked for the goverment you could sign in two quest, all the unescored women were allowed in. I cant remember the two other guys that worked there but when one of them i believe got married there let me work in his place and the other guy was a big  black guy. I wish i could remember there names, because we enjoyed working there! Big Frank the bartender always put olives in my Dr Pepper and one night Big John asked me what i was drinking and i told him Frankie was messing with me and that it was just a Dr Pepper, after that night i had him start makeing me a Jim Beam and coke and to still put the olives in my drinks.Big John never asked me about what i was drinking , so when we closed and went to the german club at the swimming pool i had a head start. When i was there i cant remember the waitresses but used to help her pickup the tables. I still have great memories of Garmisch after all these years!


 Dwayne Teel

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#3 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2005 10:37:59 PM
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You said that 5 times Erica. Are you working for them?
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, November 8, 2006 4:28:09 PM
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Hi Drew,


Chris A here - Green Arrow '72-73 & Billeting Office/Bowling Alley '73-75 (when Rosie and Gusti were there) along with the girls in the ski shop whose names I've somehow obliterated. 


Since I worked for a couple of years in the complex housing the Grill, I got to know it fairly well but working 6 days a week wasn't conducive to late nights (not that that stopped me or most others). I seem remember a great waitress named Yvonne, also known as Speedy - small quick and always smiling. I used to love the milk shakes and burgers in the restaurant.


 


There was a great band from England with a bass player named Gary, from St. Helen's outside Liverpool and a husband wife team of pianist and singer in it. Gary played at one of our impromptu picnic/drink fests at the Rod and Gun Club one year I think along with seem GI's and others. I have some pics of several folks at that gig.


 


Speaking of streaking, I also have some photos of a few guys and a gal streaking the Hausberg during Fasching, when tickets were half price for those in costume (or in this case, costumed as nature intended)


I think Paul Lambert may have lived at the Sheriden Annex across the courtyard from me. Did he ride a motorcycle? I may have a picture of Elaine. I vaguely remember going to the Oktoberfest with them (not on a bike) and riding the carousel in the Englischer Garten.


 


I could be wrong - you know what effect a night or two at the bierfest will do to person. Once, I missed the last train back and slept in one of the tents meant for Kon Tiki Expeditions patrons. They were some surprised when they arrived in the morning but I was my usual courteous self and bid them a pleasant morning.


 


I had a chance to visit two GAP alumni in the Southern Hemisphere earlier this year. Helen Thomas lives in the Adelaide area of Australia and we enjoyed a barbie, a wine tour and some good fun together. Kathie (Black) Anderson from Green Arrow etc, is in Christchurch N.Z. and again we shared some touring, good food and good memories along with the usual lamentations about getting older, creakier and crankier.


 


I'm still in touch with Green Arrow waitress Tilly (Bauer) De Molenaar, and Von Steuben waitress Martine (Mounier) Bourgeron and of course with you old friend.


 


An early Happy Holidays and Hogmanay to you and all our old comrades and a heartfelt wish for peace in the world.


 

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Wasn't around in '74 but '79/'80/'81 were also great. still featuring great bands from the UK and I remember that Big Frank was still there, DJ'ing  and things! My band, Times Square played there all of May '80 befor moving over to play in Chiemsee and B'Garden. A spec5 called Bob was the NCO in charge at that time but I can't recall who was the bar manager, (too long ago!) It's all good food for the old grey matter, tho. Roger Bethell aka 'Animal'
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#6 Posted : Thursday, November 9, 2006 4:36:56 PM
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I left for good in May 78 for 2 years in Asia, & returned in 80 & 81 just for a few days to see Bob Borzellino & sundry other figures of note. There were really great bands all through the 70s. After working for Sgt Turnell when I left he told me if I ever needed a job just come & see him, that I was an excellent worker & so forth. When I came back to visit the Grill he asked me for an ID! Then wouldnt let me in without a chaperone.  He was OK though, & basically the job at night was fantastic because you could see all the new girls in town & ski during the day. I remember one night there were a bunch of us who had inherited a VW microbus, it would never have passed the inspection, but we drove it around anyway, & it died down near the Post Hotel. The Polizei came up a little astonished that there were maybe eight stoned hippies pushing the thing, & they checked the inspection disc & thought it was the right color(brown) so they let us go. The thing was the disc was blue & I had put chocolate peanut butter over it so it passed the test. Never got arrested but did get fined DM400 for driving a bicycle while under the influence, I had no idea they had taken a blood test since I got hit by a car & was unconscious in hospital, & had to sign myself out a week later with a broken arm & leg, but the Germans were understanding & wrote off the hospital bill because I had worked previously for 2 years & was between jobs. I wonder if they tested the guy who hit me?
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I remember sitting in the Annexe one night in '82 with Annabel and my brother discussing how the GI's who went to the grill were so desperate that they would go for a girl even if she had a paper bag over her head... so yes we decided to put the theory to the test and cut eye and mouth holes in some brown grocery bags, added a little lipstick and I think some cotton wool hair, (gentlemen prefer blondes) and shimmied down to the grill.  Theory proven 100%, although we were a little miffed that my brother got most of the attention!  I also (vaguely) remember one night thinking a quicker route home would be to ride my bike down the steps out front rather than walk it down...bike was totalled but I was fine, funny how alcohol can break a fall...happy times.  Thankfully am back in a few weeks with husband (I married Annabel's brother!) and daughter, can't wait and hope to see some familiar faces. x

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Hi Chris, Merry Xmas & happy New Year to you & all the people who spent time at AFRC. The Green Arrow was wild, do you remember when I used to work as night shift bellboy, & the GIs would invite me in for a bowl as a tip? One night Doug, desk clerk  who had long hair & wore it pinned up under a wig, & I dropped acid & I had to cart the bags to the room while hallucinating on the Colonels Hawaaiian shirt. Doug I saw later in Korea. Then there was Frank from Seattle, lazy big bugger, who spoke German when he was a child in Munich & then left for the US when he was seven & returned with no German at all & the most appalling way of saying “Ein bier bitte”! So you saw Helen in Oz? Did she know of Jeannie? Do you remember the night we went to see 2001 A Space Odyssey & ate too many brownies & Maureen & I had to leave because we thought it the funniest movie we had ever seen & couldnt stop bursting out laughing.. I think Rosie & Kim were there & sundry others from the GA. Then there was Mr. Mellow, Jack, who I think was the mellowest guy I have ever met, always totally relaxed & smiling. Paul Lambert did have a bike, I wonder where he ended up, good looking bloke with curly hair, & I remember he planned on being a photographer.


What a time,


All the best,


drew

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Hi Everybody, Yes the best was when Charlie Henderson ran the place, he was a class act. I knew the Gallucis very well, in fact I also lived in Herr johanssens house, & I remember Scotty Stratton, Big Tim, Gerard, & a number of other crazy ski patrols that lived there. Say hello to Bob Hood, he was a terrific guy, I think in the airforce? I used to play pool down at the Green Arrow with a guy who worked up on the Zugspitz I mean we'd play pool upstairs in the airforce quarters & how we managed not to get hauled off to the clink I will never know. Burnt a lot of incense maybe. Great parties on New Year at the Grill, remember Paul Badger?, he was the bartender there on occasions & had a finger shot off he claimed while gun running to Cuba. I just have to hear “Stones on the water” & I think, The Grill!
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Paul, I remember Paul Lambert, who was a photographer, is that you? Always wore a levis jacket & at one time was Elaines beau?
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#11 Posted : Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:25:11 AM
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Got there in late 1975 on the recommendation of an English guy called Kevin Bennet, who worked in the pub in Spain that in later years, I was to work in,  who advised me to try Garmisch. The 'Grill' was my first port of call. It was strange to be in a little America in Bavaria. Barmen were Paul Badger and Frank. Bob Silver was there too. Got a job as Gym attendant shortly after and after the 1st week of work, Paul took me over to Italy for the weekend and we got really shit-faced. Never made it to work on Monday and had to figure out some excuse for Cap't Grisard-a nice guy who wasn't too upset. I worked there later in 80-81 on Ice-cream counter/food service ass't  with Dave Brookman and janitor with old Lou Persinger. One of the cooks was 'Fat Mark', who Joe Barfield the manager, used to berate for letting his pants slide down so far that when he bent over the repulsive sight of the entrance to the crack of a immense ass was in view to all. Oh,  and 'The Chief' used to come in and do the stocktaking in the mornings. Great times!
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And I musn't forget Sue Rutter, Mark Lundstrum Barman, also English guy, Laurence (Lon) Richards(son)?  from 80-81, anyone know where he is? Pete (Day)
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Does anyone know what happend to Frau Drexler & her daughters? I recall her place when it was a little hole in the wall in downtown Garmisch? She moved to Zugspitz Strassee just outside of Sheridan Barrack as I recall? Is any of her family still involved in that place?


Bob


 

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Hi Rob, Yes I remember you & your band, trevor & Roy. Did Trevor marry an American girl? Yes Turnell was a decent guy, even tempered & easy to get along with. . In 1981 I was living in the North End (Little Italy) in Boston, & saw a bank guard get shot & robbed. The cops were on the scene in minutes & I gave them my story & immediately after a TV reporter stuck a microphone in my face & asked me to repeat what I said. Paul Badger was working in a bar on Cape Cod & sees me on the telly & cries “Thats Andy Failes”! He came up & visited us a few days later & last I heard he was in Los Angeles. I also went to Italy with Paul, we were all paralytic I dont know how he could drive!.
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Andy, I am not that Paul. I did shoot a hell of a lot of photographs and did wear a levi jacket, but I can't remember an Elaine. My last name is spelled Lambres. It is actually a basdardized from a Greek name when Grandpa came over from the old country in 1913/14.
I did spend most of my time in Berchtesgaden and Chiemsee when stationed with AFRC. However, I still got to Garmisch a bunch over a 4 year period; especially after I got out of the service in 75.
AFRC Paul
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I remember the ball, does anyone remember the streaking craze? I remember Zane whom I later met in Kandahar, Afgahanistan streaking the Grill one night, but I think the only place I streaked was the Last Chance. However I do remember the guy on a penny farthing bicycle, an Aussie, I think his name was Dennis, dancing the dance of the flaming assholes at the grill. He stuck a toilet roll up his bum & lit the other end & I think jumped up on the old horseshoe bar & pranced along it like a fairy, which he certainly was, singing 'Im a firefly”. He was a riot & eventually made it from London to Sydney, Australia, I read about it in the Bangok Post. Every time I saw him in the Chance, he would scream,”Lover boy, come & give me a kiss”! Very funny guy, & around 71, I was hitchhiking to Greece down the Jugoslav coast, near Dubrovnik, & this English professor picked us up, & one night after a few glasses of slivovitz, he told me this story of an amazing Aussie in a London pub, who came out the toilet with a toilet roll stuck up his bum &------ yes it was our beloved bicyclist .
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You are talking about The Last Chance on Zugspitzstr opposite the Sheridan, Frau Drexl ran it until I think 1975 when Sonja took it over. great place, spent many thousands of DM there.
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Andy,
Dang, that was a fun place back then! I first got to Garmisch in 72 on a ski trip from Schwabisch Gmund (near Stuttgart)and made ski patrol in Nov of 73. Of course the IBG was a focal point for all GI's when they first got to Garmisch. After a while we all got exposed to the finer establishments like the 'Last Chance', John's Club. Frau Drexler's etc.
I was always amused by one of the bouncers at the Grill, Bob Hood. He is still one of my best buds and he comes to all of the reunions this group puts together. The reason I was so amused is because he is not a big guy, but he always got the tough guys to walk away with their tails between their legs. Always.
There was also one guy who's goal in life was to be carried out of the IBG every night during the winter of 75-76 (I think). Might have been the previous winter. Anyway, he came pretty close. Can anyone name him?

AFRC Paul
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Charlie Henderson called me Sleeping Jesus cause every time I got a break from busting my ass behind the bar, working for this idiot Austrian, I would go downstairs and take a nap and he would always find me. His wife was a hoot and the german manager, heavy set fellow and I would Vosk March now and again. Sliced my hand pretty good one night washing parfey glasses on the machine in the sink in the back. Lived across from the Golf Hotel in an apartment owned by the supply manager of the Grill and drove a VW with Washington State plates till I sold it to Kim (of Kim and Rosie) when I headed back to the states.  In past editions I have gone on with Tim (Father Foley) about the shoot outs in town (cap gun wars) and the final shoot-out in the grill, the flare over the Sheridon Barracks sent by me from the Gallouchi House, Smitty learning to bowl with his left hand after breaking his arm, working in the Green Arrow and living downstirs with a guy who was AWOL from Vietnam, getting papers to work at the Plastic Factory with the help of, who else, Frau Drexel to extent my stay, doing the movie bus, Grill, Kellor with the Flaming Aussie, having Col. Malloy bar me from the city because he saw me vote absentee for McGovern in the Sheridon APO office, spending quiet Sunday mornings in the libaray over the Russian Training center across from the Ski Patrol barracks, having a great time diving off the side of the mountain on a rodell from the half-way house, getting toasted with Jake and walking the peaks around the valley, doing Thanksgiving at the Rod and Gun Club and having General Davidson's  Helo pilot come by with a bottle of Jack for each of us from under his seat flying from HQ and killing said bottles in a sitting, joining Stanley's 100-mile-an-hour club while up in Chemisee, and on and on.  As I have said before and will say to whom ever asks, it was the perfect place, at the perfect time and we somehow all knew it.  Prost X to all those who were there, for whatever reason and who remember. Its in the telling of the stories of the past that we create history.  Cookie
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Hi Cookie, Geiger Plastics AAAARGH! I lasted three days after being put on that awful machine where you have to cut off the plastic as it came down the tube, cut it into squares, & then put it in the tubs. The fact that the supervisor tried to pick up one, & they were all stuck together like some modern art work didnt help. Good thing was you could drink all day to numb the boredom, but I eventually complained that I was getting “Asthma anschlage” & requested another machine & they fired me. Icomplained to the Arbeitsamt &  they sent me to the doctor from hell, ex concentration camp guard type you know the stereotype, big fucking German woman, well that she was & insisted that “Ich kann gar nichts finden”. I got the arbeitsamt to send me to a “Lungenspezialist” & thought oh no, his name is Dr Geiger, but he was a lovely bloke & the Arbeitsamt had to pay me DM2500 for lost wages, & I could only work outside!. So he sent me to Deutsche Asphalt, but I managed to stick with the fumes & the very hard work where we carried six tons of asphalt a day on those wooden yoke collars. At least I survived to tell the tale although having Mad Ron from ireland working there it was touch & go.. It was the best of times.


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